WGA Staff Members consider ourselves “wounded healers.” We have experienced some of the same conflicts as WGA group members and we are willing to share that experience. We make no claim to be able to “change” anyone in any way. We believe that it is only God who can change people whenever (if ever) He chooses.

Staff members have stated their agreement with WGA purposes, philosophy, policies and procedures, and they have committed to live up to the established criteria for staff. All staff members are required to belong to a local church whose leadership supports their involvement with us.

Roger Jones: Executive Director

In the spring of 1995, Roger’s struggle with homosexuality and an addiction to pornography led him to WGA. His personal journey has provided him unique insights into sexuality and the pain of adversity, which he shares through his testimony, facilitation of small groups, writing and public speaking.

Roger began working with WGA in October of 1996 as the Assistant office Manager. Since that time, he has worn many hats and served in several different positions, including Assistant Program Director and Operations Director. In April of 2007, Roger assumed the position of Executive Director.

Roger attended West Texas A&M University, where he studied Music Business. Much of his training has been “on the job,” where he was mentored by the ministry’s Founder, Mary Heathman, and the Program Director, Scott Kingry.

Scott Kingry: Program Director

A staff member since June of 1992, Scott is a key player in the WGA discipleship ministry. He plans, organizes, and implements every aspect of the Thursday night support group. In addition to counseling group participants and training leaders, Scott maintains personal contact with many group members and is thereby often a catalyst for healing. It is to Scott’s credit that many group members feel personally welcomed, cared for and loved.

He has served as an elder of Corona Presbyterian Church and as an advisory board member and speaker for One By One, a Presbyterian denominational outreach regarding sexual issues.

Although he holds a degree in graphic arts, he attributes his ministry qualifications to the “school of hard knocks.” Its curriculum included five years in the homosexual lifestyle, which he left in 1987. God’s abundant grace continues to be the instrument of change in his life, and he desires to be firmly grounded in the forgiveness and freedom of relationship with Jesus Christ.

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Mary Heathman: Founding Director

Mary is one of the founders of Where Grace Abounds and served as Executive Director from its its inception on July, 1986 through March 31st, 2007 She also has served as the Chair of the Board of Directors of Exodus International, is a member of the Exodus Speakers’ Bureau, and speaks and teaches at churches and conferences across the country. Mary’s favorite ministry roles are discipleship counseling, group facilitation, and leadership development.

Mary often characterizes herself a “a seeker of Truth” and has a long-standing fascination with human behavior and motiviation.  Her education consists of lay and discipleship counseling, indepentent study about the integration of psychology and theology, counseling and human sexuality. She also holds a BS degree in Human Services from Regis University.